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Zoom hat einen neuen Flashrecorder rausgebracht.
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http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/index.php

Ich habe mir das Low-Budget-Teil mal geleistet, um auf die Schnelle mal was aufzunehmen.
Erster Eindruck: Plastikgehäuse, schön klein (ein weinig größer wie ein Lucky Strike Bigpack), klingt gut.
Ich werde das Ding mal am Wochenende mit Musik füttern und hier weiter berichten.
Hat vieleicht noch jemand das Spielzeug?

Gruß
BLUE-S-MAN
 
so,und wie sind jetzt Deine Erfahrungen??Ist es sein Geld wert??



gruss tutu
 
Ja, ist sein Geld wert.
Wer mal eben auf günstige Weise die Probe mitschneiden will,
ist mit dem H2 gut bedient Mit einer 2GB SD-Karte lassen sich ca.
180min in 16bit/44.1kHz aufnehmen. Ein Highend-Gerät ist das natürlich nicht.
Die Soundqualität ist für so ein Low-Budget Gerät sehr gut.
Download Orginalaufnahme unbearbeitet (Einstellungen - Mic [g=105]Gain[/g] low,90 Grad, Limitermode - concert, Aufnahmemodus Wave 16bit/44.1kHz, konvertiert am PC zu mp3).

Gruß
BLUE-S-MAN
 
Danke für Deine Antwort,noch eine Frage welche max. Größe an SD Karte ist möglich?



gruss tutu
 
Sehr schön, fürs Auto und unterwegs!
 
Danke,Schon eine IDEE!!! for Pimp my H2.....




gruss tutu
 
habe mir gerade Deine Aufnahme angehört und bin angenehm überrascht hört sich eigentlich recht passabel an.

Ich fände es toll wenn Du die Lust und Zeit finden könntest und noch ein paar andere Aufnahmen hoch laden würdest vielleicht beim Sparziergang im Wald/Fußgängerzone/Auto/Straßenbahn/[g=183]Bus[/g] was auch immer....


Auf jedenfall was heute für 199€ machbar ist,das ist schon sehr bedruckend vor allem wenn sehr wahrscheinlich in 6 Monaten,das Teil für 149 oder sogar 99 euronen über die Ladentheke gehen wird.




gruss tutu
 
Danke Dir,noch mal ich finde die Ergebnisse absolut "Sehr Brauchbar"

Erzähle mal bitte was Dir nicht gefällt und was besser sein könnte?


gruss tutu
 
Oh, das teil ist wirklich verlockend zum ideen festhalten.
@bluesman: da geht aber immer nur eine spur, oder? Ich kann also nicht zuerst ne Gitarrenlinie aufnehmen und dann darauf eine gesangsmelodie festhalten, oder?
Das wäre nämlich noch cooler ... :)
 
@memi
Nein, geht nicht, da müßtest Du den H4 nehmen, der ist aber auch wesentlich teurer. Der H2 kann aber Surroundaufnahmen machen.

@Tutu

Weiter oben ist ein Link, da werden alle bisherigen Vor- und Nachteile beschrieben. Ich kopiere das mal hier rein.

Pros:
1. Small form factor (even smaller then the edirol R09). this will make it very easy to place on a groom or person without getting in the way or looking too clunky.

2. Very nice build. The finish is very nice satin steel finish (yes it's plastic), and very solidly built. It actually feels much more substantial and well buit then the H4.

3. Maunal controls.
a. Nice recessed buttons that make it very easy to navigate, as well as avoid buttons from accidentially getting hit during recording.
b. Recording levels can adjusted on the outside of the unit. No digging into the menu like the H4. Yippee.
c. 4 different mic configurations.
90 degrees: record from front of mic element
2 [g=190]Channel[/g] stereo: mic records from front and back of mic (you can place this right on a mic stand in the middle of a band and record either teh entire band at once, or face one side of the mic towards the crowd and the other towards the band to record both sources.)
4 [g=190]Channel[/g] Surround: Record in the same manner as 2Ch, EDIT: Correction: Creates two seperate WAV files (labels them SR***L and SR***R)...thus allow you to set the 3D panning of the four mic elements. This can either be done in computer sound program, or the unit itself (you can set your levels after recording, to create your 4 [g=190]channel[/g] mix).
120 degree: record using the back of the unit to record in a 120 degree radius.

d. L/M/H [g=105]Gain[/g] settings onoutside of unit for quick adjustments when needed

5. Normalization: you can normalize your recording right in the unit with no need to do it on the computer

6. Menu adjustable AGC/[g=322]Compressor[/g]/Limiter

7. Digital audio passthrough. Record to the unit and send teh identicle signal to your camer (via wireless) by way of the Phones/Line OUt 1/8 port

8. 1/8 Mic and Line in ports. Don't have actual tests with this yet, but they are there for easy access. Actually this unit is really meant to be used as a mic recorder and external mics shouldn't be needed. BTW Mark mentioned to me today " One item I'm concerned with is the ext. mic circuit...will it allow GS lavs (etc) to plug in and record without the audio falling into the noise floor..." I wouldn't worry about that too much as you should be able to use teh units external [g=105]gain[/g] settings to prevent that. I believe that you would have to supply mic power to the lavs though (which is in the menu).

9. SD card recording: From early reports you can record to SD cards up to 4GB without a problem. And some selected 8-12 GB cards. The only drawback here is that you have to format the cards outside of the unit.

10. High fidelity recordings. You can record in as high as 24/96 WAV format. No worry about sync issues for the most part here. We'll have to see when reports roll in from the field.

11. Built in mics. The mics actually sound a bit cleaner than the H4 mics do. Again, we have to wait till I or others get it in the field.

12. Time stamp and track marker function in WAV record mode.

13. NEW, as reported by Mark: Good news on the lav issue...not only do regular lav mics work (you have to enable mic power through the menu) but GS mic wired for the iRiver works also. When you're using an ext. lav mic with a typical wired configuration, it will record to left [g=190]channel[/g] only. If you use a Giant Squid that was configured to work with your iRiver, it will record to right [g=190]channel[/g].... "

14. NEW, as reported by Mark: Good and bad news for the hold funtion... Bad news...the on/off switch is still active so if someone shuts it off...well..... Good news...the recording goes through shut down process so you won't loose file.

15. NEW, as reported by Mark: Unit will use either akaline or oxyride batteries...I would recommend oxyride for long record times at receptions

* Explanation of oxyride battery: Oxyride batteries use updated alkaline chemistry that includes a finer grained graphite and manganese dioxide, allowing a denser fill of material. With an advanced substance for the cathode or negative (-) side, called oxy nickel hydroxide the batteries maintain higher voltage. Oxyride batteries also utilize a vacuum-pouring technology in the production process, allowing more electrolyte to be packed into each battery for increased durability. Hence, increased power and a longer life....

16. NEW, as reported by Mark: Full-time Monitoring: To enable full time monitoring of the input signal, press the menu key. Scroll through unitl you see "[g=226]monitor[/g]" and select "on"

17. NEW, as reported by Mark: Another "cool" feature: by pressing the play/pause button while recording, you can set a BWF (Broadcast Wave Format) compatible cue point. Not sure all NLEs can read this info...but it places a marker on the audio timeline. This would be benifical in a long recording to identify important areas when scrubbing a timeline

18. Ease of transferring files to the computer over the iRiver...no more importing files to the iRiver music manager to convert. Simply select "USB" on the menu and the computer sees the H2 as a removable drive

19. Latest Update on SDHC cards: Just purchased SanDisk (comes with SDHC reader for your computer) and PNY SDHC 4GB cards from Circuit City. The H2 recognized them and formated them with no problem. They also function perfectly. Still waiting to see what the best deal might be on obtaining 8GB SDHC card.

20. NEW! You are able to format and use 8GB SDHC cards. I purchased this 8GB Transcend SDHC card, and was able to format the card in the H2 itself and use it.

Cons:
1. Form factor for mounting on a mic stand. The H2 has a 1/4 thread at it's base, which means that the unit is really meant to be mounted straight up. They do supply a small pole of some kind that could be mounted inot a mic holder if needed. But I would hate it.

2. SD card loads from the bottom. The same bottom that the unit mounts. Means that you have to remove the unit to change cards. However, if you use long running 2-4 8-12 GB cards, then there woould be no need to remove these cards when recoding in the field.

3. No [g=15]XLR[/g] inputs. Well we knew this. And not really a bit con, since I wouldn't be using an external mic with this unit. Except for maybe a lav.

4. Levels can't be adjusted while unit is in Hold mode (hold the Menu key to put the unit in "Key Hold" mode). You can pwer the unit down or adjust the L/M/H [g=105]gain[/g] switch on the unit if needed.

5. Never [g=84]insert[/g] or remove the SD card while power to the H2 is on. Otherwise data can be destroyed.

6. NEW! When you change SD cards, the H2 does not retain your current setings. EDIT: Your settings seem to be cached in the SD card themselves and not the H2 memory. So if you inserted a brand new SD card you would get the deffault 44/16 WAV settings.

These are just some quick obeservations.
And more and sound tests and info will be added to this thread when they become available.

I will say, that for those looking for a relacement for their IRivers. That's a small form factor, inexpensive (only $199 and that was the actual retail price for the 1GB IRiver. And this can record on SD cards for up to at least 4GB.), record in MP3 (why bother), when you can record in WAV 16/48, 24/48 or 24/96, built in stereo mics, that can record in 4 [g=190]channel[/g] surround, and much more.

From what I have seen first hand, It's here in the form of the H2. While it won't be the best audio unit out there. It will be the best low cost unit out there.


Gruß
BLUE-S-MAN
 
ok schade...danke trotzdem :)
 
Memi schrieb:
ok schade...danke trotzdem :)

Vielleicht solltest du dir mal das/den Boss MicroBR ansehen. Ähnliche Preisregion, nur das eingebaute Mikro ist nicht so toll :( Dafür hast du halt ein Vier-Spur Studio in der Hemdtasche.
*Klick*

Stevo hier aus dem Forum hat mal eine Aufnahme vom MicroBR hochgeladen und das Klang schon sehr gut!
 
@holgmann: jo danke...auch net schlecht. Ich brauch halt was, womit man sofort intuitiv loslegen kann. Lustig habe noch quasi den grossen Bruder vom MicroBR, nämlich den Boss Br-8. Der wird leider halt mit zip-disks betrieben...das dauert dann immer wenn ich damit was aufnehmen will. da kann ich gleich den PC anmachen ;-)
Naja...werde mir das teil demnächst mal anschauen. gruss, memi
 

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